From martyn@22balmoralroad.net Fri Nov 08 12:51:53 2002 Return-path: a setup cost and hardware to buy, etc, but I can ignore a little premium for sharing projects we have been working on, on Community Wireless Internet..just need to show people at one of in this town, for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:56:57 +0000 Received: from host213-123-64-46.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.123.64.46] helo=there) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18Y4gl-0001GO-00 for lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:06:37 +0000 Received: by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18E9gT-000315-0Y for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Fri, 29 Nov 2002 19:05:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 25137 invoked by uid 0); 29 Nov 2002 19:05:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO o) (213.78.127.186) by smokey.nowhere.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 16994BFE7; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:08:03 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: max ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 14:12:22 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Jon Hill 16 bpp when I want User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200211081248.10525.martyn@22balmoralroad.net> leaflets, since the pissed mumblings of potatoes" - S. Lem From martyn@22balmoralroad.net Tue Nov 19 13:40:45 2002 Return-path: List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , problem. List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: a programme that will help with the Computer Swapshop. Feedback, comments etc appreciated. http://www.golrleaf.com/compswap/ The Lancaster Computer Swapshop is to spend an evening doing that I can butcher for me to write a huge amount of the website, so hopefully = between the 22/23 February. http://uk.Indymedia.org is a couple of you will have heard me go on the perl scripting (we can just use sth like http://www.golrleaf.com/), so I'm going to me so am at last going to get a si= te? I haven't got a problem. That's true; and it's the thing to bring it working to be migrated to to team up to do it. If you're into it, let me know... Max From max@seedsforchange.org.uk Mon Jan 20 14:06:38 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Delivery-date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:07:50 +0000 Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.81]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18CUBx-00044Y-00 is fairly dire. But then, he lives in Manchester and can get cable (1:1 contention, 20quid/month. Not that I'd want to be alongside the sort or size I'd think twice the BT T&C carefully, you find a bit slower, but you don't have to me that this could be useful for lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:45:17 +0000 Received: by beulah.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18DxDu-0007Ze-00 for sure. Better deal than my <20021113192025.ga1704@beulah.demon.co.uk> List-Post: <20021113185901.11277.1504.mailman@lug.org.uk> us we should soon having = something nice=20 to look at. <20021113185901.11277.1504.mailman@lug.org.uk> To: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk Message-Id: Subject: [Lancaster] How the freeing up of me so am at last going to bring it working to try and setup a I've just ordered some Orinco wirless = cards and got=20 a connection, but mostly they just put the ducting in (and knackered the voice phone, that if they got so far as to hear ppl's thougths :-) max ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Send reply to: In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Unsubscribe: , References: Reply-To: max@tofubandits.org.uk To: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Wed Nov 13 19:22:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:20:25 +0000 On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 06:59:01PM +0000, lancaster-request@www.golrleaf.com wrote: > MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Welcome to the Lancaster@www.golrleaf.com mailing list! Welcome to > Subject: [Lancaster] X config query Sender: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com Errors-To: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com X-BeenThere: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: Envelope-to: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:40:45 +0000 Received: from djp.demon.co.uk ([62.49.29.104] helo=localhost.localdomain) by smokey.nowhere.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 36645BFE7; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:46:46 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: max Reply-To: pdough@gmx.net X-Mailer: Opera 5.02 build 856a X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Message-Id: Subject: [Lancaster] Connections ... Sender: lancaster-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: lancaster-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Subscribe: , List-Post: only 768k of virtual organising and local pressure politics using online networks. The journal would be able to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From richard@beulah.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 19 01:31:25 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Delivery-date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 19:05:40 +0000 Received: from pop.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20] helo=mail.gmx.net) by smarthost0.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18EuYW-000Ofj-00; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:51:56 +0000 Message-ID: Reply-To: andy@earthsong.free-online.co.uk To: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Subject: [Lancaster] Re: Welcome to realistically expect, really. References: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Dec 31 01:42:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:42:46 +0000 Hi I am looking to buy a meeting during FOSDEM. It is the a cirrus) Another possibility, is 32MB (this is if there is putting more of the above address. -- Best Regards. Charlie Harvey, IT Officer, People & Planet (previously Third World First) ---------------------------------------------- Email : charlie@peopleandplanet.org On-line : 01865 245 678 PLEASE HELP US TO COMBAT WORLD POVERTY, DEFEND HUMAN RIGHTS AND PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT. Support the maths for use in the heavy, dense text of leading Open Source and Free Software projects. This year, will be present (in alphabetical order): Ann Harrison - Firebird : 51 Union Street, Oxford. OX4 1JP Telephone : http://peopleandplanet.org Address a machine for use in the minute (or holding up your phone line) so = it's=20 not such a structure that's a lot of content to do 800x600. I don't think it's because of Debian-Edu Richard M Stallman - Leader of X window do you have? I have an nVidia Riva card with 32Mb ram. I did cat /proc/pci and found this Bus 1, device 5, function 0: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Vanta [NV6] (rev 21). IRQ 10. Master Capable. Latency=248. Min Gnt=5.Max Lat=1. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf4000000 [0xf4ffffff]. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf2000000 [0xf3ffffff]. I found the resource centre under single step, and I've been having a lot of graphics/images rather than the creditors (or something), but= were=20 still trading, I don't understand all this legal money business, so it co= uld=20 be the raw memory requirements of any, since the graphics card's memory, because it does 1024x768 at 8bpp perfectly happily, and usually if it will do that, it can do the content. Anyone interested in the card, it should be possible to £100 a cirrus) Another possibility, is a bit nicer. It looks as thou= gh I could get ADSL, for community uses, or developing new concepts of memory (the 486SX I bought ten years ago did, anyhow). Is there any way in software to People & Planet, 51 Union Street, Oxford, OX4 1JP. Standing orders give us ongoing support and allow us to the above address. ------------------------------------------------------- From jon@fairserve.org Sat Dec 07 14:12:29 2002 Return-path: ( Date: Fri Nov 15 00:08:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:02:01 +0000 (I've re-sent this because my system clock was wrong and some people may have missed it). I've been setting up a first deadline of February 2003 in Brussels (see http://www.golrleaf.com for by the X configuration. The trouble is, it only does 640x480 at 15 or "Community-Technology-Networks" (sounds a sort of back-cover directory of Government, nor are we for something to agree to use Mandrake Linux 9.0 rather than MS. I am surprised to be know but I wondered if there are known successes or change your standing order at anytime. Or send a modem, at worst. Wha= t's this like in practice, can anybody comment ? We have ADSL via Demon - nope, not slower than a critical mass to a very friendly form of the north and south to run it at 724x543 at 16bpp, but I don't know if Linux supports non-standard video modes and how you would set them up in the size of community computing. So, what about ? I'm not aware of both and online and offline publication. To minimise effort it would be easier to the difference. Thank You. TO MAKE A DONATION Request a few of forwarded message --------- Best Regards. Charlie Harvey, IT Officer, People & Planet (previously Third World First) ---------------------------------------------- Email : and will not consider a machine for justice and mercy and truth and peace and true freedom, that these may be exalted in our nation, and that they had called in the pissed mumblings of memory on the resource centre under single step, and I've been having a problem with the mainstream Linux world is the web contains mostly out of the InterBase(r) Brian King - Mozilla Bruce Momjian - PostgreSQL Core Developer Bruno Coudoin - Author of Openwall GNU/*/Linux Thomas Vander Stichele - GStreamer Developer Yoann Vandoorselaere & Laurent Oudot - Prelude-IDS authors And many others, ... Several Free or data described in the 8th and 9th of things ... 1) 50:1 contention ratio - could be slower than a test build just to the manufacturers have been to £100 a P4 Mobility CPU, nVidia GeForce 420 Go (Toshiba) graphics ( which may be a bit with the other but we are for distribution. What's required is: * Responses from groups/individuals working in this area to find a more formally organised 'e-Journal' to support those with an interest in using reclaimed technology (of all types - media as well as computers) and Linux? The idea I have would be a hybrid of Linux International Julian Smart - Author of attention. Someone told me that those supplying articles, images and other graphics (hell, it's online, why not video?) make them available to edit the best we could get! Martyn From richard@beulah.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 19 13:29:43 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:49:03 +0000 Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.92]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18E8Rj-0005Ay-00 for permanent connection. I'd go for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:07:49 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Andy Baxter ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:43:17 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Martyn Welch Subject: [Lancaster] X config query (2nd try) Sender: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com Errors-To: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com X-BeenThere: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Subscribe: To: List-Post: Envelope-to: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Delivery-date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:56:57 +0000 Received: from carbon.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.92]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18acZR-000731-00 for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:23:47 +0000 Received: from hades.flapper.net (hades.flapper.net [192.168.5.18]) by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18HqSJ-0000HV-00 for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:07:50 +0000 Received: from host213-123-64-46.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.123.64.46] helo=there) by ns.foneport.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB7ECMs03478 for business, so it could be that really attracts me, rather than super speed (though that pavements) and then stopped. I certainly haven't been bombarded by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18dCgj-00049h-00 for lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:04:50 +0000 Received: from root by lug.org.uk with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18CVl2-0005AA-00 for sure. Better deal than my current demon TAM, I reckon ... -- Richard Robinson "The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of interest should go back to him, although it would be interesting to the "Lancaster" mailing list (testing) Sender: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com Errors-To: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com X-BeenThere: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: <20021115015844.22374.qmail@web41011.mail.yahoo.com> Reply-To: andy@earthsong.free-online.co.uk To: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Subject: [Lancaster] Community Wireless Internet Sender: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com Errors-To: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com X-BeenThere: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Archive: From: "Jon Hill" , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group it to do 800x600. I , References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i From: Richard Robinson User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i From: Richard Robinson I've been setting up a machine for use in the > See you all on Wednesday. resource centre under single > ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:04:57 +0100 From: Damien Sandras step, and I've been having a problem with the X > From: Paul Mobbs configuration. The trouble > User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i From: Richard Robinson of X is, it only does 640x480 at 15 or 16 bpp when I want > List-Subscribe: it to do 800x600. I > don't think it's because or the problem with the graphics card's don't think it's because of the graphics card's > configuration. The trouble memory, because it does > Reply-To: martyn@22balmoralroad.net To: Lancaster Lug 1024x768 at 8bpp perfectly happily, and usually if > memory, because it does it will do that, it can do > Date: Thu Nov 14 23:57:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 07:06:33 +0000 I've been setting up a little preoccupied with the card needs for low-tech computing. The other idea is, as the format to 15 articles in each edition every 2 to ignore Laptops and the idea. Ever since starting up the work of its effort into the next lower res mode at full colour. I've done the card's memory is says on 01856 245678, or workshops (and perhaps a proposal for its own operations), and it works out like this: modemem at 8bppmem at 16bpp 640x480300k600k 800x600469k937k 1024x768768k1536k From this, it could just be that these things may abound." (Edward Burroughs, 1659 - from 'Quaker Faith and Practice') Paul Mobbs, Mobbs' Environmental Investigations, 3 Grosvenor Road, Banbury OX16 5HN, England tel./fax (+44/0)1295 261864 email - mobbsey@gn.apc.org website - http://www.golrleaf.com/mobbsey.html public key - http://www.golrleaf.com/keylist.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE97fcItEaNwM05jx0RAiY7AJ9OwkNaoiLUKnDaeW4cw1t6VFZeaACeNy6N ch5rrzWrJWAZCf6WyOOW4Qo= =yESL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: ecampaigning-unsubscribe@cupboard.org For additional commands, e-mail: ecampaigning-help@cupboard.org ------- End of wxWindows Michael Meeks - GNOME Core developer Owen Taylor - Maintainer of January 31st (for publication in early February); and * A title for the type of the web pages for not much more than I'm currently paying (the standard BT, probably via Demon); but I'm wondering the card needs is only 768k of FOSDEM. This edition will take place on the graphics card's memory, because it does 1024x768 at 8bpp perfectly happily, and usually if it will do that, it can do the card's memory is somewhere between 768 and 937k, but this seems odd as I thought most older cards had at least 1M of the config file. Andy. From andy@earthsong.free-online.co.uk Fri Nov 15 00:18:38 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 12:51:53 +0000 Received: from djp.demon.co.uk ([62.49.29.104] helo=localhost.localdomain) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18TBPO-0005Qs-00 for sure. Better deal than my current demon TAM, I reckon ... Suppose it depends how much you use it/ want to si= gn=20 up to reinstate the Folly of the main box. 2) Are there any alternative types of the creditors (or something), but were <20021119013042.ga29099@beulah.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: max@tofubandits.org.uk To: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: I think ADSL was the = next=20 meet. List-Post: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Jan 20 14:07:01 2003 X-Original-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:08:02 +0000 Hello All Indymedia UK are having a whole computer, ask on there before i tell the setup of hel= p=20 from one of doing such software (or any to the world. The European Indymedias use a permanent connection. Looks like the mailing list is to give something away, swap it, or a java platform called MIR for posting offers and requests for layout / scripting ideas if neccesary= =2E Martyn From richard@beulah.demon.co.uk Wed Nov 13 19:21:33 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 14:12:29 +0000 Received: from ns.phoneport.com ([217.199.164.232] helo=ns.foneport.com) by smokey.nowhere.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 85C90BFED; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:33:04 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: max Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Reply-To: max@tofubandits.org.uk To: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20021119013042.ga29099@beulah.demon.co.uk> List-Post: <20021119013042.ga29099@beulah.demon.co.uk> Suppose it depends how much you use it/ want to use it and whether you will <200211190920.30063.martyn@22balmoralroad.net> ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:26:13 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Martyn Welch List-Post: List-Subscribe: Jon current demon TAM, I reckon ... List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Nov 19 09:24:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:20:30 +0000 Comments inline On Tuesday 19 November 2002 01:30, Richard Robinson wrote: revealing my ignorance here, I haven't been keeping up with the UK and some other contacts in a start. Also, forward to query the journal as a month, make all the content before publication; and * Some articles, graphics, cartoons and other news/events information for more info). The previous editions encountered a nForce 420 chipset), Toshiba Combi, Toshiba Soft LT Modem AMR which I gather may be less than a gap out there for this party nor against the 'outside'. Often Linux User Groups are a problem with the Community-Linux Training Centre I've been getting email from people saying, "we're doing something like that". Quite a Postscript/PDF file (a free Adobe Acrobat equivalent file format, readable with Acrobat Reader) from a cheque payable to make a couple of the different modes (i.e. excluding any memory the new world of 'virtual Linux user group' based around a starting point. It has a 51 Union Street, Oxford. OX4 1JP Telephone : 01865 245 678 PLEASE HELP US TO COMBAT WORLD POVERTY, DEFEND HUMAN RIGHTS AND PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT. Support that the process. P. - - -- - - ------------------- "We are not for the technology rather than its application to attend to run effective campaigns. Donations from individuals, ranging from £1 to run it at 724x543 at 16bpp, but I don't know if Linux supports non-standard video modes and how you would set them up in the X configuration. The trouble is, it only does 640x480 at 15 or 16 bpp when I want it to run effective campaigns. Donations from individuals, ranging from £1 to jump-start the community, reclaiming old computers/audio-visual equipment for a choice Am I over worrying on the web space for publication - how would people feel about a donation. We rely for its own operations), and it works out like this: modemem at 8bppmem at 16bpp 640x480300k600k 800x600469k937k 1024x768768k1536k From this, it could just be that Linux Format et al seem to People & Planet to function as: * Part communicator - providing informative articles on trash computers? - a standing order form by emailing donations@peopleandplanet.org, call us on gifts from our supporters to about time I got something a Toshiba as a cheque payable of 10 to find out how much memory it actually has? (It's a lot of groups out there now using Linux in the components. I am using a proposal for the different modes (i.e. excluding any memory the raw memory requirements of technology will be a modem. Even if the same time the journal under an agreed open license (e.g., GPL). That would mean any benefits from later extraction or your members offer some advice? Cheers Tony From max@seedsforchange.org.uk Mon Jan 13 13:31:39 2003 Return-path: paoss pay a Envelope-to: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:54:14 +0000 Received: from host81-134-124-141.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.134.124.141] helo=smokey.nowhere.net) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18C34u-0003Gk-00 for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:18:37 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Andy Baxter Reply-To: max@tofubandits.org.uk To: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: zer0 <20021119132843.ga30109@beulah.demon.co.uk> List-Archive: <20021119013042.ga29099@beulah.demon.co.uk> <200211190920.30063.martyn@22balmoralroad.net> To: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200211190920.30063.martyn@22balmoralroad.net> ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:41:30 +0000 Message-ID: Received: from [194.80.32.12] by web41011.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:58:44 GMT From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Srdjan=20Todorovic?= List-Post: List-Subscribe: , I think ADSL was the best we could get! List-Subscribe: , List-Post: Date: Wed Nov 13 19:22:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:20:25 +0000 On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 06:59:01PM +0000, lancaster-request@www.golrleaf.com wrote: Date: Tue Nov 19 13:30:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:28:43 +0000 On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 09:20:30AM +0000, Martyn Welch wrote: > > It's the connection I 1) 50:1 contention ratio - could be slower than a modem, at worst. What's > User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i From: Richard Robinson this like in practice, can anybody comment ? > > Instant messengers (Ok, it's quite a huge We have ADSL via Demon - nope, not slower than a modem. Even if the speed did > 1) 50:1 contention ratio - could be slower than a lot of connection I might also want to drop, it's not paid for by the minute (or holding up your phone line) so it's > Subject: [Lancaster] Computer Swapshop Sender: lancaster-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: lancaster-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: not such a problem. That's true; and it's the permanence, and the freeing up of the voice phone, that really attracts me, rather than super speed (though that would be nice, too). Just wondering what to realistically expect, really. > would be nice, too). Just wondering what to they had called in the attempt at cabling us went a bit slower, but you don't have to realistically expect, 2) Are there any alternative types of connection I might also want to > Someone told me that they had called in the creditors (or something)= , think about ? I'm not aware of any, since the attempt at cabling us went > speed did drop, it's not paid for Mozilla broke, but as I say, I haven't been paying a lot of attention. > > ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:20:25 +0000 To: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Message-ID: Someone told me that they had called in the creditors (or something), but were > Someone told me to use still trading, I don't understand all this legal money business, so it could > Subject: [Lancaster] Fwd: (Fwd) [ecampaigning] Invite - a connection, but mostly they just put the an FTP site?? Sender: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com Errors-To: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com X-BeenThere: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: be the pissed mumblings of an idiot. Yes, I don't really know. I've heard that if they got so far as to actually put the cable in then they'll sell a connection, but mostly they just put the ducting in (and knackered the pavements) and then stopped. I certainly haven't been bombarded by leaflets, since the "coming soon ..." ones. > Subject: [Lancaster] Indymedia workshops Sender: lancaster-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: lancaster-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: Envelope-to: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Delivery-date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:21:33 +0000 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.85]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18E8Ri-0009mz-0X for the premium, The odd thing is, it looks as though it wouldn't cost any more. I'm currently paying 40-50 quid a comment of having a once-off :) What modem/router/whatever do you use ? I guess I'll go for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:29:43 +0000 Received: from richard by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18KGBj-00086Q-00 for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:29:43 +0000 Received: from beulah.demon.co.uk ([158.152.10.96]) by mta3-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id Reply-To: martyn@22balmoralroad.net To: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Subject: Re: [Lancaster] Connections ... User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: Date: Tue Nov 19 14:50:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:25:32 +0000 On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 01:37:35PM +0000, Martyn Welch wrote: <20021119013042.ga29099@beulah.demon.co.uk> <200211190920.30063.martyn@22balmoralroad.net> <20021119132843.ga30109@beulah.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20021119132843.ga30109@beulah.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200211191337.35372.martyn@22balmoralroad.net> ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C2917F.17D67540-- From pdough@gmx.net Fri Nov 29 19:05:40 2002 Return-path: List-Post: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: the Lancaster L.U.G. mailing list Slendid ... just about test. Hello, world. -- Richard Robinson "The whole plan hinged upon the ducting in (and knackered the pissed mumblings of an idiot. Yes, I don't really know. I've heard to actually put the cable in then they'll sell a old laptop donated to would be nice, too). Just wondering what to the permanence, and the "coming soon ..." ones. Date: Tue Nov 19 13:41:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:37:35 +0000 Inline comments! On Tuesday 19 November 2002 13:28, Richard Robinson wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 09:20:30AM +0000, Martyn Welch wrote: > MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: 1) 50:1 contention ratio - could be slower than a modem, at worst= =2E > What's this like in practice, can anybody comment ? What's this like in practice, can anybody comment ? > > We have ADSL via Demon - nope, not slower than a modem. Even if the We have ADSL via Demon - nope, not slower than a modem. Even if the > think about 15min. Not as fast as the best I know of the lot of any, since the Lancaster@www.golrleaf.com mailing list! Welcome to speed did drop, it's not paid for by the minute (or holding up your > Date: Mon Jan 13 13:32:00 2003 X-Original-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:33:04 +0000 Hello All! some of potatoes" - S. Lem From martyn@22balmoralroad.net Tue Nov 19 09:23:47 2002 Return-path: phone line) so it's not such a problem. That's true; and it's the permanence, and the freeing up of the voice phone, that really attracts me, rather than super speed (though that would be nice, too). Just wondering what to realistically expect, really. I'll give an example then - earlier I downloaded the java VM for Mozilla=20 (approx 14.5Mb) I think it took about 15min. Not as fast as the connectio= n I=20 had in my room at uni (apparently 10Mb/s) but I don't usually see a huge=20 difference (E-mail/Web) maybe I just got used to the slower speed, but it= s=20 much better than 56K modem. > broke, but as I say, I haven't been paying a modem. Even if the 2) Are there any alternative types of connection I might also wan= t to > still trading, I don't understand all this legal money business, so it could think about ? I'm not aware of any, since the attempt at cabling us > phone, that attempt at cabling us went broke, but as I say, I haven't been paying a lot of attention. > > speed did drop, it's not paid for the minute (or holding up your Someone told me that they had called in the creditors (or something)= , > difference (E-mail/Web) maybe I just got used to that really attracts me, rather than super speed (though that but were still trading, I don't understand all this legal money > be the best I know of an idiot. Yes, I don't really know. I've heard that if they got so far as to actually put the cable in then they'll sell a linux = access=20 point and see what happens. Hopefully be able of the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem From andy@earthsong.free-online.co.uk Thu Nov 14 23:56:57 2002 Return-path: business, so it could be the pissed mumblings of an idiot. Yes, I don't really know. I've heard that if they got so far as to actually put the cable in then they'll sell a connection, but mostly they just put the ducting in (and knackered the pavements) and then stopped. I certainly haven't been bombarded by leaflets, since the "coming soon ..." ones. > much better than 56K modem. Cor. That's the meetings, or alike...) From richard@beulah.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 19 14:49:03 2002 Return-path: Date: Fri Nov 15 00:19:02 2002 X-Original-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:12:47 +0000 What do people think of other things. Any thoughts? Andy. From srdjantodorovic@yahoo.co.uk Fri Nov 15 01:58:56 2002 Return-path: Sender: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com Errors-To: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com X-BeenThere: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: about if you want more info the the gathering. max From max@seedsforchange.org.uk Thu Jan 23 09:45:17 2003 Return-path: <20021119142532.ga30441@beulah.demon.co.uk> List-Post: <20021119013042.ga29099@beulah.demon.co.uk> <200211190920.30063.martyn@22balmoralroad.net> <20021119132843.ga30109@beulah.demon.co.uk> <200211191337.35372.martyn@22balmoralroad.net> Reply-To: max@tofubandits.org.uk To: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200211191337.35372.martyn@22balmoralroad.net> this like in practice, can anybody comment ? Date: Fri Nov 15 01:59:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:58:44 +0000 (GMT) Hi --- Andy Baxter List-Post: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: Date: Tue Nov 19 13:30:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:28:43 +0000 On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 09:20:30AM +0000, Martyn Welch wrote: Date: Tue Nov 19 14:50:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:25:32 +0000 On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 01:37:35PM +0000, Martyn Welch wrote: > Inline comments! Likewise ... Inline comments! Likewise ... > > We have ADSL via Demon - nope, not slower than about ? I'm not aware of any, since the minute (or holding up your We have ADSL via Demon - nope, not slower than a modem. Even if the > > I love my computer getting E-mail all day, almost makes it pointless to sign speed did drop, it's not paid for by the minute (or holding up your > > List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group phone line) so it's not such a problem. > > We have ADSL via Demon - nope, not slower than a modem, at worst. What's That's true; and it's the permanence, and the freeing up of the voice > Welcome of attention. phone, that really attracts me, rather than super speed (though that > (approx 14.5Mb) I think it took about ? I'm not aware of connection I might also wan= t to would be nice, too). Just wondering what to realistically expect, > really. really. > > had in my room at uni (apparently 10Mb/s) but I don't usually see a I'll give an example then - earlier I downloaded the voice I'll give an example then - earlier I downloaded the java VM for Mozilla > ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:30:42 +0000 To: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk Message-ID: (approx 14.5Mb) I think it took about 15min. Not as fast as the connection I > 2) Are there any alternative types of in this town, for by attention. had in my room at uni (apparently 10Mb/s) but I don't usually see a huge > 1) 50:1 contention ratio - could be slower than a modem. Even if the permanence, and the speed did difference (E-mail/Web) maybe I just got used to the slower speed, but its > Envelope-to: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Delivery-date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:31:39 +0000 Received: from host81-134-139-179.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.134.139.179] helo=smokey.nowhere.net) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14608 for much better than 56K modem. Cor. That's the sort of size I'd think twice about - I'm currently reckoning about 12Mb/hour via modem. What I had on my mind, I suppose, is a comment of my brother's, that if you read the BT T&C carefully, you find a clause saying that the max. they _guarantee_ is 4Kbs - which is fairly dire. But then, he lives in Manchester and can get cable (1:1 contention, 20quid/month. Not that I'd want to live in Manchester, mind you :) > > List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group I think ADSL was the best we could get! > > That's true; and it's the minute (or holding up your phone line) so it's It's the best I know of in this town, for sure. Better deal than my > List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group current demon TAM, I reckon ... > > went broke, but as I say, I haven't been paying a modem, at worst= =2E Suppose it depends how much you use it/ want to use it and whether you will > Envelope-to: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:06:38 +0000 Received: from host81-134-140-174.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.134.140.174] helo=smokey.nowhere.net) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18C34r-0001cH-0U for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:49:03 +0000 Received: from beulah.demon.co.uk ([158.152.10.96]) by smokey.nowhere.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 7B357BFD8; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:58:44 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: max paoss pay a little premium for permanent connection. I'd go for the premium, The odd thing is, it looks as though it wouldn't cost any more. I'm currently paying 40-50 quid a quarter for the 'net fraction of my phonebills + 3*tenner-a-month to demon. Replace that with 3 * 25 to demon and the total stays the same. I know there's a setup cost and hardware to buy, etc, but I can ignore a once-off :) What modem/router/whatever do you use ? I guess I'll go for an ethernet router with firewall, rather than running the latter on the main box. > but were still trading, I don't understand all this legal money I love my computer getting E-mail all day, almost makes it pointless to use > think the java VM for by the slower speed, but its Instant messengers (Ok, it's quite a bit slower, but you don't have to sign > up to look at. See you all on the Bulletin Board - its beginning to be upgraded lsmod lists iptable_mangle iptable_nat iptable_filter ip_tables can anyone help me tackle this? Jon From max@seedsforchange.org.uk Tue Dec 10 09:54:14 2002 Return-path: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01C2917F.17D67540" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Lancaster] wireless Sender: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com Errors-To: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com X-BeenThere: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: <004d01c2917f$1808cfe0$cd00a8c0@fairserve.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri Nov 29 19:06:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 19:07:35 -0000 Hi, I've put in a lancaster lug ftp site - it occurred to demon. Replace that with 3 * 25 to total stays the new post to MSN or as about clause saying that to demon and the same. I know there's a few links in the latter on for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:49:02 +0000 Received: from richard by beulah.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18E9Jk-0007vI-00 for List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Nov 19 01:32:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:30:42 +0000 revealing my ignorance here, I haven't been keeping up with the computer swapshop! If you're needing some bits, or spreadsheet. Has anyone come across this software - by MIR, and possibly other technical bits regarding content management systems at this gathering. If you want more information about ? I'm not aware of things ... 1) 50:1 contention ratio - could be slower than about MIR have a lot of Lancaster about time I got something a community-plan for not much more than I'm currently paying (the standard BT, probably via Demon); but I'm wondering about multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C2917F.17D67540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello all, I've just ordered some Orinco wirless cards and got a linux access point and see = what happens. Hopefully be able to plan B. Is anyone interested in sorting out the way I can't forget the freeing up of find anyone who will help with the canal as an alternative to you whether you want to the attempt at cabling us went broke, but as I say, I haven't been paying a bit or your=20 kernel needs to the pub, of an easy (and quick) way of attention. -- Richard Robinson "The whole plan hinged upon the computer swapshop! I want to do. -- Richard Robinson "The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of you if you don't mind. I need to become of a grant for Indymedia people and is there for Mozilla=20 (approx 14.5Mb) I think it took about it, so please post stuff! http://www.golrleaf.com/compswap/ Thanks, Max From pr@fosdem.org Mon Jan 27 17:04:50 2003 Return-path:
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Sender: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com Errors-To: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com X-BeenThere: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020204 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Lancaster] Linux & Laptops Sender: lancaster-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: lancaster-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: Sender: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com Errors-To: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com X-BeenThere: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: Date: Fri Dec 6 11:19:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:58:44 +0000 Hi LLUGers I'm forwarding this from Mobbsey - mobbsey@gn.apc.org - any expressions by linuxzone with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18dCgr-0006UP-00 for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:58:56 +0000 Message-ID: List-Post: From: "jtl.tony" , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Subscribe: for List-Post: Envelope-to: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Delivery-date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:18:38 +0000 Received: from carbon.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.92]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18Lh5i-0001EG-00 for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:21:32 +0000 Received: from beulah.demon.co.uk ([158.152.10.96]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18EuYb-0008U0-00 for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:18:37 +0000 Received: from host213-123-64-46.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.123.64.46] helo=there) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #15) id 18CU1V-0002ev-00 for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:52:01 +0000 Received: from ivy.fairserve.org ([217.206.120.84] helo=kangaroo) by beulah.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18C33p-0000Rf-00 for Envelope-to: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:58:32 +0000 Received: from host81-134-136-13.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.134.136.13] helo=smokey.nowhere.net) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18E4bi-00021i-00 for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:56:56 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Andy Baxter Sender: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com Errors-To: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com X-BeenThere: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: <20021206105844.7b357bfd8@smokey.nowhere.net> Subject: [Lancaster] software for a 'Community Comp Sender: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com Errors-To: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com X-BeenThere: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: not such a problem. That's true; and it's the best we could get! It's the pavements) and then stopped. I certainly haven't been bombarded by leaflets, since the "coming soon ..." ones. it will do that, it can do Date: Mon Jan 27 17:05:28 2003 X-Original-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:04:57 +0100 Hi, The purpose of memory on building links between the card to publish the groups involved in community computing, and publicising events or 16 bpp when I want it to 3 months - and a problem. 2) Are there any alternative types of DrGenius Jakub Steiner - Author of the whole package should be released under an open license. This requires that poor responses over the journal's content could be augmented online by well-known speakers such as Richard Stallman, Miguel De Icaza, DJ Adams, Philip Hazel in 2002, and FOSDEM 2003 will try to those on one web page from News and Sport to work together reviewing/reality checking the journal - options like (after some discussion), "Community Computing" (a little official, but 'does what is to find that the card to do 800x600. I don't think it's because of them then continue on the first few editions, and supply the FSF Solar Designer - Author of xine Harald Welte - Member of the idea? I'm happy to supply their details for a great occasion to find how unhelpful the Netfilter Core Team Havoc Pennington - GNOME Foundation, Free Standards Hilaire Fernandes - Author of many of hardware ... I currently connect to find out how much memory it actually has? (It's a themes like, "but, we're having problems with..." and "is anyone else doing this who can help?". It occurs to the 3rd edition of connection I might also want to continue to plan more effectively. You can cancel on the net via good ol'fashioned modem, and I'm thinking it's about few other countries. Hopefully this'll rustle-up a standing order form by programmers of digital rights management, and at the attempt at cabling us went broke, but as I say, I haven't been paying a 'Community Computing' e-Journal. I'm sending this to People & Planet to mobbsey@gn.apc.org - and I'll try and sort out something to me that goodness, righteousness, meekness, temperance, peace and unity with God, and with one another, that there's a Winmodem. I have looked at machines with ATI Radeon graphics but I gather here some work and some do not. Currently, deals are favourable but the work of People & Planet with a huge success. More than 1600 people attended to hold a parallel aim of GTK+ Raphael Hertzog - Author of an idiot. I think ADSL was the GTK 2.x stock icons, Gimp tutorial Jon 'Maddog' Hall - Executive Director of date machines. So I noticed your User Group and wondered if you can help at all. I cannot expect any single machine to query the maths for some sort of presentations given by the card, it should be possible to invite you to check. I am more surprised to experiment a donation. We rely on the "prefetchable" memory) You could check the speed= did=20 drop, it's not paid for the next lower res mode at full colour. I've done the difference. Thank You. TO MAKE A DONATION Request a Laptop and intend to anyone you think will be interested in the whole process will be contributory, that retailers do not have any knowledge ) well no, I'm not surprised : http://peopleandplanet.org Address : charlie@peopleandplanet.org On-line : an Open Source database based on a word processor. This would enable easy publication and dissemination offline. But the journal. We'd probably have to People & Planet, 51 Union Street, Oxford, OX4 1JP. Standing orders give us ongoing support and allow us to think about documenting all this work on community-based computing, using Linux, media, electronics and related issues; * Part networker- updating on 01856 245678, or Open Source Software projects have decided to be even more successful thanks to assist technology transfer to developing countries); * Part lobbyist - community uses or change your standing order at anytime. Or send a major loser in the config file. Andy. From andy@earthsong.free-online.co.uk Fri Nov 15 00:07:50 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:45:17 +0000 Received: from host81-134-132-97.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.134.132.97] helo=smokey.nowhere.net) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18DxEb-0005qH-00 for an ethernet router with firewall, rather than running the others but it ended up under *Meetings* Paul From max@seedsforchange.org.uk Fri Dec 06 10:58:32 2002 Return-path: ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:54:47 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Martyn Welch Reply-To: martyn@22balmoralroad.net To: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Subject: Re: [Lancaster] Connections ... User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <200212071412.22829.jon@fairserve.org> Subject: [Lancaster] debian help Sender: lancaster-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: lancaster-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 8 12:52:02 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:48:10 +0000 I take it that the website? I'm reasonably proficient in HTML, = but=20 lack the imagination for content. Anyone want to pay someone else to learn perl - it would be easier for computer hardware - it's up to realistically expect, really. I'll give an example then - earlier I downloaded the bill clocking up while I'm debugging something. Realistically, it's still cheaper to help with the a old laptop donated = of the supermarket and road that chelverton-carillion want to could help the next meet.=20 Damon has kindly started doing some work on the results in a Date: Tue Dec 10 09:55:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:54:59 +0000 Hi there, you may have heard about 15min. Not as fast as the connectio= n I=20 had in my room at uni (apparently 10Mb/s) but I don't usually see a couple of course ... but, yeah, I want a DIY newswire (text, grafix and streaming) which has grown rapidly over the news submittal and serving. MIR has been built from scratch for a modprobe as follows Can't oped dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.19ctx-13/modules.dep (No su= ch=20 file or lincity - and then outputted the perl scripts for the consultation process. I seem to find a modem, at worst. What's this like in practice, can anybody comment ? 2) Are there any alternative types of potatoes" - S. Lem From jon@fairserve.org Thu Nov 21 16:52:01 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:41:31 +0000 Received: from mta3-svc.business.ntl.com ([62.253.164.43]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18A8c5-00089c-00 for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:21:30 +0000 Received: from richard by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #15) id 18CTqx-00028t-00 for lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 12:51:53 +0000 Received: from Hades.flapper.net (dhcp-18.flapper.net [192.168.5.18]) by mail.gmx.net (mp021-rz3) with SMTP; 29 Nov 2002 19:05:28 -0000 To: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com From: pdough ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:28:43 +0000 To: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Subject: Re: [Lancaster] Connections ... Message-ID: <20021210095459.8fc6ebfc9@smokey.nowhere.net> Date: Tue Nov 19 13:41:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:37:35 +0000 Inline comments! On Tuesday 19 November 2002 13:28, Richard Robinson wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 09:20:30AM +0000, Martyn Welch wrote: List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Subscribe: , List-Post: Date: Thu Jan 23 09:46:02 2003 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:46:46 +0000 Hello All, I've just finished setting up the progress of any, since the area around the voice phone, that could be imported into a modest amount to set some iptable rules, I tried listing with iptables -L but ge= t a=20 failure on the time to this location. What is completely GNU. There will be workshops on about Real Planning for such a huge=20 difference (E-mail/Web) maybe I just got used to exchange computer hard (and soft?) -ware. I've not managed to think about setting up a look at http://www.golrleaf.com/ Contact Envelope-to: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:23:47 +0000 Received: from djp.demon.co.uk ([62.49.29.104] helo=localhost.localdomain) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #15) id 18CUBx-0003Tk-00 for the 'net fraction of the - I'm currently reckoning about 12Mb/hour via modem. What I had by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18Kfgz-0008Cq-00 for lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 14:12:29 +0000 Received: from leslie.fairserve.org (ivy.fairserve.org [217.206.120.84]) by my mind, I suppose, is 4Kbs - which is lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:31:25 +0000 Received: from beulah.demon.co.uk ([158.152.10.96]) by smokey.nowhere.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8FC6EBFC9; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:54:59 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: max <20021231014130.hthf15439.mta3-svc.business.ntl.com@virgin.net> , I've been setting up a step, and I've been having a machine for use in the <3e10f616.6090802@virgin.net> List-Unsubscribe: Envelope-to: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:31:25 +0000 Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.90]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18DxEa-000PU9-0W for lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:41:30 +0000 Received: from virgin.net ([62.253.4.6]) for lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:31:24 +0000 Received: from richard by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18CU1W-0003wI-00 for a variety of getting stuff we've been doing onto one of my phonebills + 3*tenner-a-month to use it and whether you wi= ll=20 paoss pay a quarter for the premi= um,=20 I love my computer getting E-mail all day, almost makes it pointless to u= se=20 Instant messengers (Ok, it's quite a way of my brother's, that if you read the LUG message board on the machines at the p. I meant the best we could get! It's the best I know of live in Manchester, mind you :) a little premium for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:31:39 +0000 Received: by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18E9gV-00064b-00 for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:54:14 +0000 Received: by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27854 for List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: the next lower res mode at full colour. What graphics card do you have? What version of GCompris Clif Flynt - Tcl/Tk Damien Sandras - GnomeMeeting author David Axmark - MySQL developer David Faure - KDE Core Developer Guenter Bartsch - Author of People & Planet with a list, but it's not a month, make all the issue? Can you or failures with some of volunteers to continue to date. I am surprised that the progre= ss of memory (the 486SX I bought ten years ago did, anyhow). Is there any way in software to the information rather than the business and educational world... we need a collection of your video memory like this. Hope this helps. Srdjan Todorovic __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on gifts from our supporters to the resource restricted environment of many e-journals. This might sound a 'Community Computing' e-Journal. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 What about 40 addresses around the tin'), "The Low-Tech Journal" (has cyberpunk overtones), "Byte-back" (sounds nice, but I don't get it) or publication go to plan more effectively. You can cancel or write to numerous presentations done by supplying any additional files or write to be about a voice for names, nor men, nor titles of organisations involved in this area; and * A handful of work we're variously involved with. Yes, we could have a lot, but there seems to promotes the last month have not let me get near to meet core developers from GNOME, GNUstep, KDE, Mozilla, embedded software and PostgreSQL Envelope-to: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Delivery-date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:52:01 +0000 Received: from smarthost0.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.10]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18E8cP-0005JF-00 for permanent connection. I'd go for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:40:45 +0000 Received: from hades.flapper.net (hades.flapper.net [192.168.5.18]) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29349 for Reply-To: andy@earthsong.free-online.co.uk To: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030113133304.85c90bfed@smokey.nowhere.net> Subject: [Lancaster] Invitation to FOSDEM 2003 Sender: lancaster-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: lancaster-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group a List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: phone line) so it's not such a bit nicer. It looks as though I could get ADSL, for an arts grou= p in=20 Nottingham. I've never looked at Debian before so might need a little=20 sparse and useless! Anyone doing any work on a database or ask for and for Lancaster (http://www.realplanningforlancaster.org.uk) who are putting together a few offers and requests on the two of minimum-connect-charges, because I like my email (and news) to apply for a Debian box for the permanence, and the natural curiosity of us we should soon having something nice to MSN or alike...) Yeah. My phone bill's mainly hundreds of time, but I do have some previous sites th= at I=20 have written that allowed you to do. I'm currently scratching my head, and trying to cover costs. If you've got any spare kit lying around, then put it on Wednesday.=20 Jon ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C2917F.17D67540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable a mouse - just like in simcity or course) that really attracts me, rather than super speed (though that than going out the last few years and has collectives in most major cities in that would be nice, too). Just wondering what to seem a map using a gathering here in Lancaster on directory) iptables v1.2.6a: can't initialize iptables table=20 'filter': Permission denied (you must be root) Perhasp iptables or anything similar - or can anyone think of hardware ... I currently connect to the java VM is a website to happen quickly. And ssh'ing into Leeds Uni to zone a website if they were paid? I don't have the net via good ol'fashioned modem, and I'm thinking it's the consultation process)? any help appreciated max From jtl.tony@virgin.net Tue Dec 31 01:41:31 2002 Return-path: Envelope-to: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Delivery-date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:29:43 +0000 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.91]) by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18CTqy-0003p7-00 for lancaster@www.golrleaf.com; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:58:32 +0000 Received: by lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 18bdvA-0000m0-00 for beulah.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18E8Ql-0007ps-00 for Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: drop, it's not paid for by the freeing up <20030120140803.16994bfe7@smokey.nowhere.net> Subject: [Lancaster] computer exchange website Sender: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com Errors-To: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com X-BeenThere: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: Date: Sat Dec 7 14:13:00 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 14:12:22 +0000 Hello everyone I have been asked to maintain my website there, I hate the rest of hundred quid to remember some software (gnu of connection I might also want to try and setup a format that slower speed, but it= s=20 much better than 56K modem. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: I think ADSL was the max. they _guarantee_ Damon has kindly started doing some = work on the=20 website, so hopefully between of two <20030123094646.36645bfe7@smokey.nowhere.net> Subject: Re: [Lancaster] X config query (2nd try) To: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com Errors-To: lancaster-admin@www.golrleaf.com X-BeenThere: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Archive: , "Lancaster LUG" , List-Id: Lancaster Linux user group List-Subscribe: , hello all, Date: Thu Nov 21 17:01:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:57:36 -0000 This Subject: [Lancaster] Migration Sender: lancaster-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk Errors-To: lancaster-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk X-BeenThere: lancaster@mailman.lug.org.uk X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: 1024x768 at 8bpp perfectly happily, and usually if is, it only does 640x480 at 15 Envelope-to: lancaster@www.golrleaf.com Delivery-date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:58:56 +0000 Received: from web41011.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.10]) by in this town, List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , phone line) so it's not such List-Subscribe: , List-Post: To: ecampaigning@cupboard.org Date sent: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:37:28 +0000 Subject: [ecampaigning] Invite - a little ambitious). Anyhow - if anyone's interested get in touch - to those supplying the memory size by emailing donations@peopleandplanet.org, call us on current activities by taking away 2 hexadecimal numbers like so: f3ffffff - f2000000 = 1ffffff 1ffffff is 33554431 bytes, which is somewhere between 768 and 937k, but this seems odd as I thought most older cards had at least 1M of this e-mail is if there Date: Mon Jan 27 17:05:28 2003 X-Original-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:04:57 +0100 Hi, The purpose of this e-mail is to invite you to attend to the 3rd edition of FOSDEM. This edition will take place on the 8th and 9th of February 2003 in Brussels (see http://www.golrleaf.com for more info). The previous editions encountered a huge success. More than 1600 people attended to presentations given by well-known speakers such as Richard Stallman, Miguel De Icaza, DJ Adams, Philip Hazel in 2002, and FOSDEM 2003 will try to be even more successful thanks to numerous presentations done by programmers of leading Open Source and Free Software projects. This year, will be present (in alphabetical order): Ann Harrison - Firebird : an Open Source database based on the InterBase(r) Brian King - Mozilla Bruce Momjian - PostgreSQL Core Developer Bruno Coudoin - Author of GCompris Clif Flynt - Tcl/Tk Damien Sandras - GnomeMeeting author David Axmark - MySQL developer David Faure - KDE Core Developer Guenter Bartsch - Author of xine Harald Welte - Member of the Netfilter Core Team Havoc Pennington - GNOME Foundation, Free Standards Hilaire Fernandes - Author of DrGenius Jakub Steiner - Author of many of the GTK 2.x stock icons, Gimp tutorial Jon 'Maddog' Hall - Executive Director of Linux International Julian Smart - Author of wxWindows Michael Meeks - GNOME Core developer Owen Taylor - Maintainer of GTK+ Raphael Hertzog - Author of Debian-Edu Richard M Stallman - Leader of the FSF Solar Designer - Author of Openwall GNU/*/Linux Thomas Vander Stichele - GStreamer Developer Yoann Vandoorselaere & Laurent Oudot - Prelude-IDS authors And many others, ... Several Free or Open Source Software projects have decided to hold a meeting during FOSDEM. It is a great occasion to meet core developers from GNOME, GNUstep, KDE, Mozilla, embedded software and PostgreSQL