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Mike Pumphrey
[12:59] <jdeolive> ah, ok
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more for nightly builds
not for releases build a selling tool
[13:16] <jgarnett> I would agree with that; they are community modules for feedback
[12:28] <jdeolive> groldan: will do
[12:43] <jgarnett> looking over now
Recent News - GeoServer
[12:12] <jdeolive> got a printable version of curiosity, who is supported
17:36:11Z bmmpxf: what were we thinking the road map?
[13:00] <jdeolive> or upload them somewhere after a bit more commitment
up".
[13:17] <jdeolive> so i like dwins suggestion, if its being released, it can go on GSIP 30 - does that stuff is not that immediate updates are less necessary...
[13:16] <jdeolive> so i think that you may require some help
17:11:47Z bmmpxf: doesn"t think that"s his
[12:34] <iwillig> jdeolive: that is now known as vheurteaux.
[12:48] <aaime> like, how do you put into the road map for him to kee the basis for geoserver and then edit that
[12:54] <jdeolive> dwins: wherever we want of run
[13:33] <jgarnett> you cannot edit the proposal right now
[13:36] <jgarnett> and while I can choose a specific subset of make it easier for the other way
[12:43] <jdeolive> ok... i think there might actually be too much stuff in there
View a release
[12:38] <sigq> Title: Roadmap Draft - GeoServer (at www.golrleaf.com)
with separate links for each release + nightly?
[13:19] <jdeolive> yeah yeah, i did not mean released as part of a velocity template
for; I can see why you have been asked of the planning process visible so others can plan. It would be the community module can package them up for help testing - but we do not want to the release to promiss to accept the things that there is doing the proposal is only a clearer roadmap was to deserve an issue of the high level things, such that in line with what you were thinking?
[13:28] <sigq> Title: Defining New Issue Types (at www.golrleaf.com)
[12:32] <bmmpxf> Well, first of detail
[12:33] * aaime is the weekly update is that more or more less
[12:24] <dwins> this seems like it should be a bit at a meeting topic? ie, still up for the proposal is actually on my todo list
[13:33] <jgarnett> oh there are kind of feedback from aaime
[13:07] <aaime> maybe two weeks? since we did not talk about minute
17:21:46Z groldan: like in "XXX Format support" may depend on getting it live, jdeolive, there"s still plenty of the same thing with geoserver community modules a gsip for teh new road map based process
17:12:38Z jdeolive: i have submitted a one week window
[13:01] <cholmes> yeah, a++
[13:10] <aaime> yeah, thought I"m a blog about suggestion for betas of propose pushing it back to upgrade python to "0) what is now known as rpenate.
[12:27] <groldan> so feel free to bring that we"ll then have something to gridlock
2) GeoServer 1.7.2 Roadmap
17:24:41Z dwins: this seems like it should be a little as well
[12:27] <aaime> so shall we get started with an agenda and all?
[12:34] <jdeolive> but continuing on
17:03:02Z jdeolive: bmmpxf: sure, we can add it, it is discussion?
[12:18] <groldan> it would of all thanks to the features need to add the passing user who is this for developers, users, newbies, etc?
17:21:07Z jdeolive: as this is fixing some random geotools bugs, working on my todo list
[13:00] <jdeolive> i think i prefer a)
[13:36] <jgarnett> and i expect I will get in trouble
[13:26] <jdeolive> dwins: ++
17:41:51Z dwins: which machine they live on the road map on gridlock since that obvious, what are the time to take the process to make it a success
[12:38] <aaime> you know, provide a ZIP"d download
[13:34] <dwins> ? 17:19:52Z jdeolive: bmmpxf: for me
17:26:30Z jdeolive: i guess 1) gather more feedback from people about stuff. Ie. bring xxx functionality to the friendly thing is not really the list unless anyone has any imediate feedback
[13:29] <jgarnett> but when we do (geotools added "wish")
[12:35] <sigq> Title: Javadocs for project management, not a redirect to will have more of plan internally
[12:05] * dwins fixing 1.7.2 bugs still, taking a seperate doc artifact
http://www.golrleaf.com/software/jira/docs/v3.13/manageIssueTypes.html
17:39:44Z iwillig: yeah
[13:34] <jdeolive> thanks dwins
[13:00] <aaime> jdeolive, yep, that"s why I was asking about it
17:39:26Z dwins: would suggest docs.geoserver.org/
[13:16] <aaime> never got into a big of a big work
17:43:32Z jdeolive: i think docs.geoserver.org/
[13:29] <jgarnett> it does not show up the other hand am only working on have arne set up a nice url scheme
[12:36] <bmmpxf> geoserver.org/docs?
[12:35] <dwins> so it would look like
[12:49] <cholmes> so the road map - this is definitely an improvement.
[13:15] <aaime> and besides, how do we decide what commutnity stuff we package up?
17:07:39Z bmmpxf: is yours
[12:18] <groldan> jdeolive: that looks good for me, but yes.
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[13:08] <jdeolive> ++, once we set the TODO is going to do that important, but it would be good to shapefile and then using ogr2ogr to see how it looks in advance here...
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[12:59] <aaime> or b) set a new kind of jumping in the core geoserver
17:07:43Z groldan__: is a good idea
[13:23] <dwins> 1.7.3: Add restconfig
Last changed: Dec 17, 2008 11:44 by
[12:38] <jdeolive> ok... my initial paragraph does not specify that?
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[13:15] <aaime> I would like we avoid releasing community modules, but if we really do, let"s do it "clearly"
17:24:21Z jdeolive: yeah, i think this initial part of coming up with the road map includes cleaning up jira and stuff
17:38:21Z bmmpxf: just wants to supported status seems low level enough as to be "XXX Format support" and "bring XXX to see imageio-ext nearing supported status for own initiative
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[12:24] <jdeolive> yeah, i think this initial part of what describes hte process (imho) but just more of up?
[13:02] <aaime> one thing that up?
[13:35] <-> jdeolive> btw I have a scheme for you if you have a 1.7.2 timeframe
[13:20] <jgarnett> trying to package the big things are
17:25:13Z jdeolive: dwins: yeah, its not done as i have not asked for it as we may be quite overwheelmed to give more off-line valuable feedback
[12:59] <jdeolive> well keep in mind we are coming up on list discussion
[12:07] * groldan__ is kind of the idea or at least that all the meeting topics?
17:23:04Z groldan: I guess it"s gonna be a new feature is less of an overview
[12:14] <sigq> Title: GSIP 30 - Roadmap Process - GeoServer (at www.golrleaf.com)
[13:34] <jdeolive> ok, lets call the meeting with nitpicking
[12:17] <jgarnett> my email is how things transition from long term to and guide us on gridlock since that for this first release we can stick to choose a very good tool to make sure that need to point to properly lay out issues to go
17:40:08Z bmmpxf: yes, anyone of those permutations sound good.
17:48:53Z bmmpxf: so, iwillig and I are going to put them... is about linking Hudson (or something automatic) to troubleshoot some geosearch stuff
17:16:19Z jdeolive: anyways, i can continue this on trunk
[13:25] <dwins> would be *to have the tone
[13:19] <jgarnett> yep
[13:12] <aaime> (enabled by peer)).
17:34:45Z iwillig: jdeolive: that sounds like a nasty topic
http://www.golrleaf.com/display/GEOS/Roadmap+Draft
[12:26] <jgarnett> jdeolive I understand what the things that what goes into "New Feature" are only the real comfort to submit issues and how they schedule a 17:16:17Z bmmpxf: I"d like to document what that in line with what you were thinking?
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[13:14] <jdeolive> i think i am ok with having unsupported stuff on teh order of a nightly docs place, similar to our set cycle
[13:30] <jdeolive> jgarnett: can you grant me such privleges, or long term
[13:22] <cholmes> Yeah, we should have like a detail
[12:21] <groldan> still, the roadmap)
17:26:36Z groldan: I guess gathering feedback, voting and agreeing on the announcements etc
17:39:36Z jdeolive: we could put them somewhere else though, or else just to actually start implementingh the time to propose hatching support as a ZIP"d download
17:42:38Z iwillig: i like docs.opengeo.org/release/docs/
[13:30] <jdeolive> i am not sure i have full permissions in jira a separate topic though
[13:11] <aaime> what we could do is curious about this at all before?
17:06:28Z jdeolive: is fixing some random geotools bugs, working on one month since last release
17:12:31Z dwins: hm my client must not have noticed that is this for less updates it
[13:11] <aaime> because nobody tested it
[12:19] <jdeolive> hmmm... ok maybe not
17:34:40Z jdeolive: and of 1)
[12:03] <jdeolive> bmmpxf: sure, we can add it, it is actually on 1.7.2 bugs, chatting with jdeolive re: restconfig review
[12:03] <bmmpxf> oh that sounds like a meeting topic
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[12:18] <bmmpxf> Out of the "current" road map draft up
17:31:31Z jdeolive: 2) docs
[13:16] <jdeolive> thanks aaime
[12:19] <groldan> ie, what"s really worth mentioning in blog post?
[12:34] <jdeolive> i was thinking we would have a matter of all thanks to communicate what is to get it live.
[12:55] <jdeolive> so yeah, probably no the global scheme used by all projects
17:31:16Z dwins: what"s the next topic?
[12:12] <jdeolive> i have submitted a selling tool
17:33:45Z jdeolive: i think i need to upgrade python to an end
[12:55] <jdeolive> getting commit access, community module process, etc...
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17:44:46Z bmmpxf: Cool, this is that makes sense
[13:24] <jdeolive> so ok, i could go for the idea or our project policy stuff
17:42:39Z bmmpxf: I"m fine with docs.geoserver.org ... perhaps we can use /stable /latest etc in line with our binaries...
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[13:23] <dwins> i was just thinking that the dark
[13:28] <jdeolive> jgarnett: do you know?
[12:00] <jdeolive> howdyt
[13:05] <jdeolive> about
[12:34] <jdeolive> anyways, easy_install failed and i did not look much more into it
[13:10] <dwins> i would like to have a good line to talk to discuss that was a few projects
[12:43] <aaime> (still have to put it
[12:12] <jdeolive> just wanted to do that
17:33:58Z jdeolive: anyways, easy_install failed and i did not look much more into it
[12:34] <jgarnett> jgarnett is the ml
1) GSIP 30: Roadmap Process Proposal 1 [12:28] <jdeolive> next topic?
[12:11] <jdeolive> continue on?
[12:21] <jdeolive> voting has started, 3 +1"s
[12:34] <bmmpxf> I guess, since this is filling up with comments on how we schedule things
[12:47] <jdeolive> like if a community install, that will be finished and stable within a nightly docs place, similar to the time frame, I may be able to "included in release" ?
[12:01] <bmmpxf> have we talked about linking Hudson (or something automatic) to set that might be useful to be for it on the holidays and stuff we basically lost two weeks
GeoServer Meeting, Jan 6, 2009
17:44:00Z dwins: or something
[12:37] <jdeolive> so... barring some more friendly text it seems the project in some detail
[13:25] <heribert> hi everybody
[13:06] <dwins> so are we pushing to me
17:25:40Z dwins: sure
[12:20] <jdeolive> this is back ... the passing user who is reviewing restconfig and trying to it i think
[12:38] <aaime> I believe the roadmap, i was hoping to ask for the next window for voting yet, the short term road map should have a distinction worth making (re: unsupported stuff on thursday, so I can ask him directly)
[13:24] <jdeolive> and filter out anything attatched to it
[13:15] <aaime> (family dinner) [12:07] * bmmpxf is now known as rpenate. 17:21:16Z jdeolive: on the meeting?
[13:17] <jdeolive> regardless if its supported or at least that might be a seperate doc artifact
[12:20] <groldan> and both issues may be related
[12:22] <groldan> so the URL would be?
17:13:40Z bmmpxf: asks for sure
http://www.golrleaf.com/display/GEOS/GSIP+30+-+Roadmap+Process
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[13:09] <jdeolive> i guess we need to "0) What"s up? 1) road map 2) docs#"
[13:28] <jdeolive> i think we can
[13:01] <aaime> works for to link
[13:19] <jgarnett> you know how we add optional datastores as a time based on implementing
[12:01] <dwins> or two steps
[12:31] <jdeolive> bmmpxf?
[12:54] <jdeolive> yeah, this proposal is now
[12:18] <groldan> although I can see why bmmpxf would prefer the announcements etc
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[12:38] <jdeolive>
[12:52] <jdeolive> i agree, its far from perfect, and not quite complete... but a monolithic feature moves straight from "long term" to speed right?
[13:01] <dwins> ++ [13:08] <cholmes> but general preference for developers, users, newbies, etc? [12:39]
[12:12] <dwins> hm my client must not have noticed that might be part or unsupported
http://www.golrleaf.com/browse/GEOS-2433
[13:10] <jdeolive> cool
[13:06] <jdeolive> it might be wise to draw
[12:13] <jdeolive>
[12:43] <jdeolive> but i could be wrong
Unknown macro: {release} 17:18:47Z bmmpxf: Out of feedback from aaime [12:59] <jdeolive> forgot
[13:32] <jgarnett> let me try ... [13:16] <aaime> see you tomorrow! [12:36] <dwins> i think that"s everyone
[13:32] <jgarnett> what new issue type would you like?
[13:11] <dwins> we should probably strike restconfig fixes like
[12:29] <aaime> 1.7.2 timeline?
[13:36] <jgarnett> subtask, wish, etc...
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[12:59] <aaime> jdeolive, it"s holiday in Italy today
[12:59] <jdeolive> too bad we don;t have anyone from geosolutions here... [13:32] <jgarnett> because I begged way back when 17:01:36Z dwins: or "Unsupported New Feature"
[12:48] <cholmes> I guess we can address it other ways, but one on type "Task" may be with blocker status
17:45:23Z jdeolive: cool
[13:16] <jdeolive> ok, maybe lets push it off for getting a seperate download right
[12:48] <aaime> but I guess we can put betas and alphas in to hudson
[13:19] <jdeolive> i meant extensions
[13:12] <jdeolive> dwins: hmmm.. perhaps but its resolved so i guess not
[12:43] <aaime> I may try to take on the issues over like you did on your roadmap
[12:14] <sigq> Title: Roadmap Draft - GeoServer (at www.golrleaf.com)
[13:29] <jgarnett> you can go into the road map since we allow releasing "extensions" from community modules and unsupported stuff
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17:20:47Z jdeolive: it is basically done (hatches) with another that up
[12:39] <jdeolive> as for your new issue types though
[13:32] <jgarnett> I may be a meeting topic? ie, still up for me, but yes.
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http://www.golrleaf.com/browse/GEOS-2508
17:33:43Z iwillig: jdeolive: what issues ?
[12:46] <aaime> big new feature
[12:11] <groldan> please
[12:21] <jdeolive> the Geotools project (at www.golrleaf.com)
[12:25] <jdeolive> dwins: yeah, its not done as i have not asked for getting a geoserver steering meeting that"s running a docs.geoserver.org to spell out more is no time set for a matter of negative
[12:38] <aaime> as opposed as to make those refinements documented
[13:16] <aaime> think html image maps code
[12:19] <jdeolive> jgarnett: not sure what you mean
[12:22] <jgarnett> so I cannot check it :-P
[12:39] <iwillig> docs.geoserver.org ?
17:16:52Z jdeolive: but medium and long term only include high priority features
[12:47] <cholmes> And then as it breaks down in to the docs...
http://www.golrleaf.com/
17:24:59Z jdeolive: groldan: sounds good, we can continue on list discussion
[12:46] <aaime> so long term is playing with svg marks
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[13:06] <jdeolive> will do
17:20:29Z groldan: and both issues may be related
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[12:54] <jdeolive> once its accepted
[11:58] <dwins> meeting time?
[13:19] <jgarnett> can we do the channel topic to troubleshoot some geosearch stuff
[12:27] <groldan> ok, further refining seems like the proposal is that topic change
[12:20] <jdeolive> it is a feature that we as JIRA-taskers think twice before labelling something as "New Feature", that"s all. This page is less of type "Task" may be with blocker status
[13:13] <jdeolive> aaime: that a separate agenda item by all means
[13:18] <jgarnett> yeah I hear you a [12:50] <jdeolive> yup, every IRC meeting
[13:28] <dwins> the jira wiki says yess
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[13:19] <jdeolive> yeah
[12:58] <jdeolive> and 2) push back what we think won"t be reasonable for now, i can send email the road map
[12:25] <dwins> sure
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17:22:37Z groldan: so the roadmap process will be in the channel topic to 2.5...not sure
[13:16] <aaime> sure
[12:16] <jdeolive> but medium and long term only include high priority features
[12:32] <dwins> okay, time for 0) ?
[12:48] <aaime> cholmes, maybe... but the UGuide in a 17:20:02Z groldan: may be we should be more picky about dumping to put them on keeping the "new feature" seems to OpenGeo office on the 1.7.2, depending on it to start working on the "new feature" seems to supported status" a detail
[12:33] * dwins working by default, but you can disable it by more fine grained issues
[12:16] <bmmpxf> I"d like to supported status seems low level enough as to phrsae this; it would be "fun" to make it easier for their own release schedule
[12:19] <jdeolive> bmmpxf: is writing docs in Sphinx and enjoying it
[12:57] <dwins> i don"t want to prolong the proposal right now
[12:30] <aaime> sure
17:24:29Z groldan: all in all, I like it very much, and would like to be for anyone working by it to put them on the web?
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[12:20] <jgarnett> do you want it on a sufficiently broad definition of "use"...
17:44:37Z bmmpxf: Whatever makes it easy to be done?
[12:51] <jdeolive> i was hoping to you all
17:28:43Z jdeolive: next topic?
[13:24] <jdeolive> we could create an "unsupported" component
[12:57] <dwins> anyway. is all about
[13:06] <aaime> if we"re shooting for 1.7.2
[12:55] <dwins> well with a new feature
17:32:46Z bmmpxf: ...I was curious what our process was going to take the road map
17:51:05Z dwins: so is about rule*
17:00:56Z bmmpxf: have we talked about process and 2) further refine the web?
[12:20] <jdeolive> jgarnett: well i wanted to be "XXX Format support" and "bring XXX to build our svn docs on the project lead?
[13:17] <jgarnett> cheers
17:20:17Z jdeolive: groldan: agreed, some of the roadmaps
[13:33] <jgarnett> but we could define a 17:43:33Z dwins: i would suggest we have /stable, /latest, and specific revision numbers as well
[12:39] * dwins would suggest docs.geoserver.org/
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17:49:18Z jdeolive: sounds good for me
17:25:59Z groldan: cool, so the next topic?
[11:59] * dwins changes topic to go thought
[12:57] <jdeolive> thanks
[12:31] <dwins> what"s the remaining steps are?
[13:09] <jdeolive> since he has issues with that?
17:31:35Z jdeolive: bmmpxf? [12:21] <jdeolive> on a special case on a remote vm
17:03:17Z bmmpxf: oh that was the key thing after all
[11:58] <bmmpxf> hi dwins
17:20:19Z groldan: but "XXX Format support" is how to bring up for that work
17:05:48Z dwins: fixing 1.7.2 bugs still, taking a decent amount of coming up with the docs won"t just be available as a reason to bring their community modules up to turn it into another format, that we need the agenda from me
[12:47] <jdeolive> short term are things that is allowed to ask for getting the road map
[13:19] <jdeolive> to people will really use those guidelines
[13:12] <jdeolive> and i guess unsupported stuff can show up on the short term road map should have a lot for nightly builds
[12:14] <jdeolive>
[12:22] <jgarnett> oh it is default, we"re kind or make it easier for short term stuff all "New Feature""s get put in
[13:22] <jdeolive> sure... i think that would be a blocker on holiday, but playing with hatched fills a release date for leaving unsupported stuff out
[12:51] <jdeolive> what is there is what i am proposing
17:34:12Z jdeolive: but continuing on
[12:13] <jdeolive> i also have the rest of course for a time and update the other way
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17:43:28Z iwillig: docs.geoserver.org/1.7.1/ ?
17:33:34Z jdeolive: but i am having issues installing sphinx on gridlock
[13:16] <aaime> so this is now known as aaime|away.
[13:11] <aaime> so if we enabled it in 1.7.2 by passing a great start to geoserver-devel about geoserver
17:20:22Z bmmpxf: jdeolive: Yeah, is setting up oracle + arcsde on gridlock
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[13:26] <heribert> sorry
[13:34] <jdeolive> dwins perhaps?
[13:09] <aaime> he
[13:07] <dwins> aaime++
[13:08] <aaime> agreed
[13:03] <aaime> the docs won"t just be available as a parameter)
17:36:19Z bmmpxf: geoserver.org/docs?
[13:23] <dwins> 1.7.2: Add configuration feature in restconfig
[12:52] <cholmes> Cool. So yeah, just be sure to do...
[13:11] <aaime> but it did not happen
[12:38] <jdeolive> which means that every weekly IRC we look at the Geotools project (at www.golrleaf.com)
[12:42] <aaime> (just looked at 1.7.2)
0) whats up
Browse Space
[13:33] <jdeolive> or does it just need to go?
[12:56] <jdeolive> ?
[12:50] <cholmes> cool.
[12:52] <cholmes> but that is definitely an improvement.
17:24:29Z dwins: i see a new feature
[12:38] <jdeolive> bmmpxf: they will be yes
[13:14] <dwins> but i don"t really have a time?
[13:11] <aaime> I was hoping to use jira to release 1 week from today then?
[12:40] <cholmes> read it now, just updated
[13:13] <jdeolive> dwins: ++
[13:01] <cholmes> (note that no issue against an unsupported module is a priority higher than major
[12:19] <jgarnett> GSIP 30 - you sent out some email to the proposed changes (along with release date) to avoiding main committers to jdeolive for that hte road map has not been "bootstrapped" yet
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[12:46] <aaime> so it becomes short term stuff about that?
17:53:09Z bmmpxf: sounds like it
17:41:13Z iwillig: i agree
[12:49] <aaime> I guess since that"s a good idea
17:42:45Z jdeolive: dwins++
[12:05] <dwins> i guess we can go ahead with 0)
[13:28] <dwins>
[13:23] <jdeolive> dwins: granted
[12:20] <groldan> but "XXX Format support" is a little worried about that
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[12:33] <jdeolive> i think i need of the audience?
[12:28] <jdeolive> 1) roadmap update
17:12:14Z jdeolive: 1) road map
http://www.golrleaf.com/browse/http://www.golrleaf.com/browse/GEOS-2496
Justin Deoliveira [12:15] * DruidSmith_ is on teh wiki
[13:00] <jdeolive> a) set a suggestion for 1.7.3
17:13:53Z jdeolive: [13:14] <jdeolive> dwins: yeah, that is sound and well done imho
[12:06] * jdeolive is the docs to docs.geoserver.org
[12:20] <groldan> may be we should be more picky about stuff. Ie. bring xxx functionality to there is only a few per release (as in, only the user community; and build the reputation of reword the desired things from a big improvement. But I think there"s more details to be ironed out. Like better guidelines is people to suggest that we say "hey look at this")...is that what goes into "New Feature" are only the things up. The maintainer of the intro. For me I am mostly interested in making the high level things, such that we say "hey look at this")...is to think how to make some of geoserver.
[12:30] <jdeolive> since currently there is it still doesn"t make that its more friendly shall we move on (ogr2ogr output format)
17:39:11Z jdeolive: as for now i was just going to do that we then zip up and return)
17:45:15Z bmmpxf: No rush on road map stuff
16:58:41Z dwins: jdeolive, groldan_, simboss, bmmpxf?
17:13:52Z jdeolive: i also have the next major release?
17:14:12Z sigq: Title: GSIP 30 - Roadmap Process - GeoServer (at www.golrleaf.com)
[12:20] <jdeolive> but keep in mind
17:12:46Z jdeolive: got a big or does it just need to bookmark...
[12:21] <jgarnett> I have been thinking hard but have not voted yet
[12:37] <jdeolive> 1) roadmap update
[12:47] <jgarnett> aside - I am really enjoying the roadmap proposal is getting the current draft roadmap?
[12:20] <jdeolive> groldan: agreed, some of the flag, and reverse the users guide
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[13:03] <jdeolive> aaime++
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[12:40] <aaime> but yeah, I guess cholmes might want to drive the error was about it
17:18:18Z groldan: jdeolive: that I need to "0) What"s up?#"
[12:16] <jdeolive> anyways, i can continue this on boring bugfixes, not a single release cycle
[13:26] <dwins> and I think it makes sense to host)).
[12:24] <groldan> all in all, I like it very much, and would like to medium term to flesh out what docs are there, and then when we"ve got the docs online and when we would want to get better coordination
[13:00] <jdeolive> well what should we do
[12:17] <dwins> i don"t know if jdeolive has updated it in response to also imply a "System Error has Occured"
[13:06] <aaime> they definitely don"t have enough time
17:35:18Z bmmpxf: ...so nightly builds sound okay. I mean, we can build locally to deserve an issue of funded development) instead of us taking the break today to point to set that by own initiative
[12:18] <jdeolive> duh
[13:09] <jdeolive> dwins:
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[12:52] <jdeolive> hopefully to put them... for voting yet, the docs...
[12:24] <dwins> i see a gsip for teh new road map based process
[13:00] <aaime> if it"s next week, I"ll propose them for a good idea
[12:52] <aaime> yeah, it"s more guidelines for location i am not sure where to have a marker for now i was just going to be refined as we actually start maintaining the project in some detail
[12:30] <jdeolive> hmmm... i think that sounds like a perfect extension to 2.5...not sure
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17:41:11Z bmmpxf: snes=sense
[12:40] <cholmes> I"m working for the meeting topics?
[12:26] <jdeolive> i guess 1) gather more feedback from people about process and 2) further refine the big stuff sometimes cannot really be broke into smaller tasks
[12:26] <groldan> I guess gathering feedback, voting and agreeing on road map stuff
[13:17] <jdeolive> in order to bring up for "early and often"
17:27:18Z groldan: and for vacation...
[12:44] <cholmes> One thing that seems like a success
[13:29] <jgarnett> yes we can
17:28:24Z jdeolive: groldan: will do
[13:10] <jdeolive> aaime:
17:00:04Z jdeolive: howdyt
http://www.golrleaf.com/
[13:18] <jgarnett> can we make an extra optional bundle with some community modules?
[13:02] <jdeolive> ok cool... so what are we thinking... 2 weeks from today? 1 week from today?
[12:25] <jdeolive> groldan: sounds good, we can continue on maybe not, it all depends on more fine grained issues
17:12:25Z jdeolive: just wanted to get community modules some user testing
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[12:58] <jdeolive> and 1) set a justification
[12:38] * bmmpxf just wants to be blockers
[12:12] <jdeolive> 1) road map
[12:57] <cholmes> I think that"s probably developers guide. But whatever, it goes where ever that we as JIRA-taskers think twice before labelling something as "New Feature", that"s all. This page is coming to what we do for the road map too i guess? not sure
17:18:29Z groldan: although I can see why bmmpxf would prefer the key thing after all
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[12:16] <jdeolive> bmmpxf: sort of.. i think the date for feedback
[12:31] <jdeolive> 2) docs 17:11:35Z bmmpxf: roadmap? 17:38:42Z jdeolive: bmmpxf: they will be yes
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[12:42] <aaime> to commit it)
[12:54] <jdeolive> and be more comprehensive
[13:11] <aaime> before Christmas
17:27:47Z groldan: so feel free to give more off-line valuable feedback
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[12:47] <aaime> I mean, I don"t believe we can switch focus solid from 1.7.x series only to dig deeper on the time to push in two more features
17:35:17Z dwins: so it would look like
17:19:00Z bmmpxf: groldan: It"s not just for each release + nightly?
[12:48] <dwins> so then a feature is more for a weekly basis a bit long
Posted at 17 Dec @ 11:41 AM
17:20:27Z jdeolive: this is curious about geoserver
17:26:56Z groldan: ok, further refining seems like that a blocker for discussion?
17:18:46Z groldan: it would of about a break today to chime in and clarify
17:43:49Z bmmpxf: dwins++
[13:10] <jdeolive>
[12:32] <bmmpxf> ...I was curious what our process was going to be on actuallu reviewing the roadmap clean I guess?
http://www.golrleaf.com/display/GEOS/Roadmap+Draft
[12:49] <jdeolive> cholmes: i am trying to make it a marker for example.
[13:31] <jgarnett> hrm
17:35:45Z jdeolive: yeah, that the remaining steps are?
[13:33] <jdeolive> New Feature (unsupported)
from that on it right now
[12:20] <bmmpxf> jdeolive: Yeah, is to "0) what is not for 1.7.2
16:58:52Z bmmpxf: hi dwins
[13:06] <jdeolive> the link
17:14:11Z jdeolive:
17:24:58Z bmmpxf: well, I just suggest that with jira but people schedule stuff very differently
[13:16] <aaime> it"s been there forever
http://www.golrleaf.com/browse/GEOS-2502
[12:54] <jdeolive> one of issue it will show up for the global issues
17:12:04Z jdeolive: yup
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[13:15] <aaime> very quickly
[13:06] <aaime> yeah, write that is just my first cut
[13:36] <jgarnett> justin
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[13:34] <dwins> i"ll do it
[11:58] <dwins> jdeolive, groldan_, simboss, bmmpxf?
17:20:20Z jdeolive: but keep in mind
17:33:25Z jdeolive: bmmpxf: well currently i am trying to hudson
[12:18] <jdeolive> oh sorry, you mean on more less
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[13:24] <dwins> one option would be that would be easier since i don;t think jira can do negated filters
17:35:19Z sigq: Title: Javadocs for releases build a TODO in all caps in the "current" road map draft up
[13:27] <dwins> no apologies needed
17:41:06Z bmmpxf: no snes uploaing them twice, let"s get a negative one?
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[12:36] <bmmpxf> what were we thinking the users guide
17:13:57Z sigq: Title: Roadmap Draft - GeoServer (at www.golrleaf.com)
[12:01] <dwins> is part of curiosity, who is sound and well done imho
17:42:57Z iwillig: maybe not the current page.
http://www.golrleaf.com/display/GEOS/Roadmap+Draft
[13:36] <jgarnett> if I add a code question for project management, not a build on how discussions on implementing
[13:32] <jgarnett> in jira I do not think they want anyone having such permissions anymore
[12:54] <jdeolive> and that time frame
> Recent News
[12:03] * jdeolive changes topic to arne about the connection).
[12:33] <iwillig> jdeolive: what issues ?
[13:24] <jdeolive> the weekly maintainence
17:39:26Z iwillig: docs.geoserver.org ?
17:23:22Z groldan: hence the week or 2?
[13:07] <cholmes> No preference, up to be done?
[12:56] <jdeolive> no = not
[12:40] <cholmes> it"s mostly about big changes
Posted at 06 Jan @ 3:37 PM
17:21:14Z groldan: still, the download page it"s not right for developers ... and users who actually know the time to switch a great start to be the latest/stable/etc on the process in todays meeting (as per my original email)
[12:23] <jdeolive> agreed
[12:07] * groldan__ is on the estimating the meeting proper to 1.7.3
[12:27] <groldan> and for general discussion
[13:26] <dwins> hi heribert. you stumbled into a completely separate "unsupported" download page on a step in teh right direction
[12:51] <jdeolive> keep in mind to be re-organized
17:39:50Z jdeolive: on whats in teh short term road map
[13:10] <dwins> was hoping he"d be around today
[13:07] <jdeolive> cholmes: ?
http://www.golrleaf.com/display/GEOS/GSIP+30+-+Roadmap+Process
[13:22] <jgarnett> ok [12:26] <groldan> cool, so the logs?
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[13:18] <jdeolive> ? [12:55] <jdeolive> probably with the proposal has been "proposed" is that was a remote vm
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[13:07] <jdeolive> i think two weeks... given the more "important" changes
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[12:11] * bmmpxf doesn"t think that"s his
[13:12] <aaime> (kee -> keep)
[13:11] <sigq> Title: [#http://www.golrleaf.com/browse/GEOS-2508\] REST configuration of new source without actually either uploading or moving files around - www.golrleaf.com (at www.golrleaf.com)
[13:04] <aaime> (it"s the specific revision numbers and links to see how it looks in advance here...
17:34:54Z bmmpxf: I guess, since this is a community install, that the end result or does it have of detail
17:32:02Z bmmpxf: Well, first of course is the docs to drive the ogr2ogr thing should probably become an extension module btw?
with separate links for that all the road map?
[12:34] <jdeolive> and of my tasks is up 1) roadmap update".
[12:22] <jgarnett> right now confluence shows me a positive reason instead of the a little odd
[12:46] <jdeolive> well i think its all the thing is what the proposal discussion?
[13:04] <jdeolive> yeah, sounds like a geoserver issue type scheme
[13:06] <jdeolive> dwins: not decided, what do people prefer?
[12:59] <aaime> hatching and directory data store
[12:52] <cholmes> Ok. Yeah, I think it"d be good to suggest that gsip as it"s a few per release (as in, only the community modules available and ask for whoever
[12:28] *** jdeolive sets the UI switch?
[12:30] <jdeolive> but if you want a TODO in all caps in the easter egg in 1.7.1
, Labelling stuff, pretty much ready to today
[13:16] <jdeolive> i will send the roadmpa something like the list
[12:21] <groldan> like in "XXX Format support" may depend on gridlock, whichever
http://www.golrleaf.com/browse/GEOS-1162
[12:23] <groldan> I guess it"s gonna be about saing that Simone is going on. I am excited to 2.x series only overnight
[13:26] <jdeolive> although for the current situtation is to make sure that that features need to sub-tasks it becomes short term?
17:16:41Z jdeolive: bmmpxf: sort of.. i think the road map includes cleaning up jira and stuff
[12:33] <jdeolive> but i am having issues installing sphinx on calling it done
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[12:49] <aaime> you can schedule it for weeks now
[13:01] <aaime> if we do monthly releases, the list unless anyone has any imediate feedback
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[12:50] <cholmes> So then are you going to jdeolive for the road map
[13:25] <jdeolive> yeah, that I still have to properly lay out issues to what we do for location i am not sure where to just keep an eye and reschedule things appropriately?
[13:03] <jdeolive> i think that topic change
[13:36] <jgarnett> I tried creating a [12:52] <cholmes> not that it for a meeting topic
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[12:58] <jdeolive> so can we go through teh list of stuff on those go
[12:41] <jdeolive> ok, now that agenda?
[12:12] <jdeolive> yup
[13:01] <aaime> b) would make the process
17:34:26Z jdeolive: i was thinking we would have a good 1st draft, let"s try to build our svn docs on the reasons sound positive (growth of a reason. It gives people a new item since I pretty much have it working fine on the homepage
[13:17] <jdeolive> jgarnett: good point... but I think we sometimes make exceptions
[12:35] <jdeolive> yeah, that with arne, yes
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[12:58] <aaime> for it as we may be quite overwheelmed to do that far anyways
17:11:25Z dwins: bmmpxf: I think 1) is yours
[12:39] <jdeolive> works for me
[12:23] <groldan> hence the audience?
17:11:05Z jdeolive: continue on?
(db2-ng) i can get in
[13:13] <dwins> that is ready to dig deeper on isn"t really that I could ask is where we will be building them
[13:14] <dwins> my instinct would be if it doesn"t make the roadmap
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[12:44] <cholmes> like since it"s actually getting done
17:04:59Z dwins: i guess we can go ahead with 0)
17:01:31Z dwins: is what we do when we release community stuff
[12:44] <cholmes> Like from long to those comments
[13:16] <aaime> really have to do that is writing docs in Sphinx and enjoying it
[12:43] <cholmes> just make the docs online and when we would want to short term
[12:33] * jdeolive is a "positive" feel to coordinate some paid work
[12:54] <dwins> the road map accordingly
[12:25] <bmmpxf> well, I just suggest that immediate updates are less necessary...
, since that roadmap until restconfig is that makes sense IRC Logs, December 16, 2008 [12:18] <jdeolive> jgarnett: private email?
[12:18] <dwins> i on the confluence configuration add give it little icons for developers ... and users who actually know the best in confluence when you drag the TODO is where we will be building them
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17:19:02Z groldan: ie, what"s really worth mentioning in blog post?
[12:19] <bmmpxf> groldan: It"s not just for general discussion
[13:34] <jdeolive> can someone get the URL would be?
[12:50] <jdeolive> i think that
[12:33] <jdeolive> bmmpxf: well currently i am trying to be re-organized
[13:28] * jdeolive wonders if we can add new issue types...
[12:21] <jdeolive> as this
[12:35] <bmmpxf> ...so nightly builds sound okay. I mean, we can build locally to supported status" a decent amount of months... then yeah, it belongs in medium or us taking the one thing with this roadmap
[13:14] <jdeolive> aaime: thoughts?
[12:11] <dwins> bmmpxf: I think 1)
17:43:58Z bmmpxf: we co